best film: The Conformist from Bernardo Bertolucci. The Conformist is a visual showcase of set pieces, lighting, and overall mise-en-scene. It features unending sequences of jaw-dropping architectural design. It is a feat of costume design as well. It is Bertolucci’s best film, and quite easily the best film of 1970.
a common choice by many cinephiles as the most beautiful film ever made…
…with plenty of evidence to support
It is astonishing is that even at this grand of scale, such detail and elegance, Bertolucci actulally had two archiveable films in 1970
After The Conformist in 1970, hypothetically if you had asked me where I thought Bertolucci (29 years of age at the time) would land on the all-time directors list when he was done? I would’ve guessed top 10.
The Conformist influences everything from Blade Runner to Brazil
the film has roughly 50% of the best cinematic paintings from the entire year total year- all the rest of the films from 1970 combined
most underrated: There are a bunch of candidates here. Both Patton and Little Big Man are omitted completely from the TSPDT consensus top 1000. I was shocked by Patton especially. George C. Scott’s performance combined with that screenplay (both Oscar winners) by Francis Ford Coppola should land somewhere in the back half of the top 500 at least. Sure, Patton is evidence that a 70mm film shot by Franklin Schaffner is not the same as a 70mm film shot by David Lean or Stanley Kubrick – but still. MASH at #911 on the TSPDT list bugs me the most though probably. It isn’t Altman’s best work- but all of the Altman auteur trademarks are there already: the zooms, the overlapping dialogue, the sharp satire, the genre revisionism.
most of Altman’s style (zooms, overlapping dialogue) doesn’t translate to a single frame- but his take on Leonardo Da Vinci’s The Last Supper does- as Bunuel did nearly a decade before in Viridiana
most overrated: I’m a great admirer of the work of John Cassavetes from Faces to A Woman Under the Influence to The Killing of a Chinese Bookie– but I can’t get behind 1970’s Husbands at #299 on the TSPDT list. Cassavetes is sort of a one-man indie film movement in 1970 and is a needed and welcomed counterpoint to Hollywood cinema but Husbands doesn’t give you much to latch on to or much to admire (relatively of course- I mean I have it in my archives below) except for the acting. The #299 ranking is #3 for 1970—so that would put Husbands ahead of Five Easy Pieces and MASH of course- that’s a miss by the critics.
gems I want to spotlight: I really have three films here to choose from. For cinema diehards, I think Performance is the film to watch if you haven’t seen it (I’m assuming people have seen The Conformist). I talk a lot about the surrealism/doppelganger work and influence of Bergman’s Persona (Bunuel, Lynch, Rivette, Aronofsky) but we have a bizarre male counterpoint here with Nicolas Roeg’s Performance. The film’s “Memo From Turner” sequence and music video is powerful filmmaking. For those movie-goers who are less experimentally inclined, Arthur Penn’s Little Big Man is just about as entertaining a yarn as there is. I love this film, its strong narrative, and the performances (led by a white hot in 1970 Dustin Hoffman). If you’re just getting into cinema and are looking for a foreign language film or a black and white film (or both) that is very accessible (and maybe can get you over thinking about reading subtitles or watching something in black and white) go with Truffaut’s The Wild Child. It is a very easy transition- a very laidback watch.
doubling and inversion in Roeg’s Performance
Roeg is an editing wizard– and an important figure to early 1970’s cinema- both he and Altman are just about as good as it gets from 1970-1976/1977
trends and notables:
- Bertolucci is 29-years old when The Conformist comes out. At this point maybe you may say Kubrick (still a young man at 42), Leone (41) or Tarkovsky (38) had a better future? Maybe the two princes of the French New Wave? But it sure felt like this was the beginning of something. Bertolucci made some great films after this- but sadly never delivered on the overwhelming promise of The Conformist
- The top four films are from new faces in the top 10. For years it seems like we always have a Kubrick, Bergman, etc—but here it is Bertolucci, Nicolas Roeg, Robert Altman and Bob Rafelson—auspicious early films for all of them. To add to that we have the first archiveable films for Hal Ashby (The Landlord), Alejandro Jodorowsky (El Topo) and Dario Argento (The Bird with the Crystal Plumage)
from Jodorowsky’s El Topo
the Chilean auteur manipulates both form and genre (the western)
- New Hollywood vs. Movie brats – it is an important distinction—the Movie Brats (De Palma, Lucas, Spielberg, Scorsese) haven’t really arrived yet- this New Hollywood is more about Mike Nichols and Arthur Penn at this point—it really worth watching every film of these two during this period- good or bad. I mean even Catch-22 from Nichols isn’t a complete success- but still a captivating film
- The end of an era for the wider screen format that came about in the late 1950’s– Ryan’s Daughter and Patton, both in 1970, were really the last bastion for 65/70mm films for quite some time
the above iris from The Wild Child. We’re past the French New Wave at this point— but it is still worth keeping tabs on Truffaut and Godard. If you’re going to make the case Truffaut is superior (not that it ultimately matters much- they’re both geniuses)- this period is crucial. We now have five archiveable films from Truffaut (including two in 1970, one in the top 10) since Godard’s last one- Weekend in 1967.
- It is big year for actors in terms of their first archiveable films as well. With the true Altman era starting here in 1970 you’d have Shelley Duvall’s (Brewster McCloud) start as well. She’s just one of the many talented trope of actors he’d work with again and again. Ryan O’Neal would be very important to the first half of the 1970’s and he’s here with Love Story (he has a tiny second on screen in The Graduate prior). Tommy Lee Jones is also in Love Story and Susan Sarandon is in Joe. Take a look at those two names around here in 1970—so early—they would both have a long climb to winning Oscars and becoming two major stars in the 1990’s. If you compare O’Neal with like Tommy Lee Jones you just never know how stardom is going to go. I mean O’Neal is a massive star from 1970-1977 (Love Story is a huge hit). I mean he gets the lead in a Kubrick film. Tommy Lee Jones’ peak wouldn’t really happen until 12-15 years AFTER O’Neal really stopped getting work.
best performance male Jean-Louis Trintignant is astounding understated actor who has archiveable films that go as far back as 1962 (Il Sorpasso) and as recent as 2017 (Haneke’s Happy End)- but his greatest single moment is in Bertolucci’s The Conformist. This gives him back to back mentions in the category after My Night At Maud’s in 1969. It did not take long for Nicholson to go from scene-stealing support in Easy Rider to full fledge lead in a powerful film here in Five Easy Pieces. Nicholson is volatile, intelligent and cocky in the film. It is an impeccable character study and it is impossible to picture it without Nicholson. His “hold the chicken” order at the diner is justifiably legendary. George C. Scott more than up to the momentous task in Patton. Those are big boots to fill, so to speak, playing the towering controversial general. These are the big three performances for 1970. A half-step back is Dustin Hoffman (Little Big Man– and that’s three in four years for him in this category), Donald Sutherland and Elliott Gould. The latter two play hilarious surgeons in Altman’s MASH.
Nicholson’s “hold the chicken” order at the diner is justifiably legendary– from Five Easy Pieces
George C. Scott’s finest hour, the words from Francis Ford Coppola’s adaptation, and a wonderful opening set piece gigantic flag
so if the two major films that started The New Hollywood are Bonnie and Clyde and The Graduate– here you have the director of the first (Penn), teaming up with the star of the second (Dustin Hoffman) for total revision of the western epic
best performance female: It is another rough year for this category in 1970. As much as I love The New Hollywood era, the era and the auteurs of the era, really failed to create as many good roles for female as they did for their male peers (think back to Vitti or Karina working with Antonioni and Godard). There are only three actresses here I think you can make the case for in 1970. One is Karen Black in Five Easy Pieces. It is a loud, bold character—and I think Black comes away looking very good next to Nicholson. The only others, and they really don’t hold a candle to Trintignant’s accomplishment in the same film, are both Dominique Sanda and Stefania Sandrelli in The Conformist.
top 10
- The Conformist
- Performance
- MASH
- Five Easy Pieces
- The Wild Child
- Little Big Man
- Patton
- Zabriskie Point
- Le Cercle Rouge
- Ryan’s Daughter
stunning super panavision 70mm photography from David Lean’s Ryan’s Daughter
Lean’s style is totally out of vogue in 1970– but time has been kind to Lean’s incredible work
Ryan’s Daughter and Patton, both in 1970, were really the last bastion for 65/70mm films for quite some time sadly… Kurosawa with Dersu Uzala technically (that’s Sovscope 70) but most it was used for special effects short bursts only in the 1970’s and 1980’s… it isn’t until 1982 with Tron where we had some more sustained use, I mean Ron Howard used it for Far and Away in the early 1990’s
from a content standpoint you wouldn’t put Melville with Fassbinder, Todd Haynes or Wes Anderson- but going back to the bathroom in Bob le Flambeur– wallpaper and decor is extremely important to the French auteur best known for gangster and war films- this from Le Cercle Rouge
again here- wallpaper, and the muted blue, green, gray color design
from Antonioni’s Zabriskie Point – I adore the shot of the secretary with the machine collapsing on top of her—this is set design or mise-en-scene bliss and architecture as character… think of the building swallowing Moreau up in La Notte
17 camera set-ups in final explosion montage – we get the explosion at least 14-15 times followed by a great avant-garde expressionistic ending. Slow-motion explosions of consumer products flying in the air—this is the end game—recalls Godard’s Weekend tracking shot- a highly ambitious finale from Antonioni
Archives, Directors, and Grades
| Bed & Board- Truffaut | R |
| Brewster McCloud- Altman | R |
| Catch-22- M. Nichols | R |
| Claire’s Knee- Rohmer | |
| Companeros – Corbucci | R |
| Dodes’ka-den – Kurosawa | R |
| Donkey Skin- Demy | R |
| El Topo- Jodorowsky | R |
| Five Easy Pieces- Rafelson | MS |
| Husbands- Cassavetes | R |
| I Never Sang For My Father- Cates | R |
| Joe- Avildsen | R |
| Landscape after Battle- Wajda | |
| Le Boucher – Chabrol | R |
| Le Cercle Rouge – Melville | HR |
| Little Big Man- Penn | MS |
| Love Story- Hiller | R |
| MASH- Altman | MP |
| Monte Walsh- Fraker | R |
| Patton- Schaffner | MS |
| Performance- Roeg, Cammell | MP |
| Ryan’s Daughter- Lean | HR |
| The Ballad of Cable Hogue- Peckinpah | R |
| The Bird With Crystal Plumage- Argento | R |
| The Confession- Costa-Gavras | HR |
| The Conformist- Bertolucci | MP |
| The Garden of Fitzi Continis- De Sica | R |
| The Great White Hope- Ritt | HR |
| The Honeymoon Killers – Kastle | R |
| The Landlord- Ashby | R |
| The Pizza Triangle-Scola | |
| The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes- Wilder | R |
| The Spider’s Stratagem – Bertolucci | R |
| The Wild Child- Truffaut | MS |
| Tristana- Bunuel | HR |
| Two Mules For Sister Sara- Siegel | R |
| Zabriskie Point – Antonioni | HR |
*MP is Masterpiece- top 1-3 quality of the year film
MS is Must-See- top 5-6 quality of the year film
HR is Highly Recommend- top 10 quality of the year film
R is Recommend- outside the top 10 of the year quality film but still in the archives
Scars of Dracula (1970)
https://imgur.com/a/scars-of-dracula-1970-INsSTQ4
Taste the Blood of Dracula (1970)
https://imgur.com/a/taste-blood-of-dracula-1970-ktgHmD4
@Drake- Have you seen Sergei Bondarchuk’s Waterloo (1970)?
@Drake- Have you seen Investigation of a Citizen Above Suspicion (1970)? It was Italy’s Oscar pick over The Conformist.
@Malith- I don’t believe so- no
Hatchet for the Honeymoon (1970)
https://imgur.com/a/XinhvhA
The place where Kubrick got the inspiration to use the distorted wide angle lenses in A Clockwork Orange.
What a WILD ending to the film and career for the thriller master in The Man Who Haunted Himself.
Car chase, Roger Moore vs. Roger Moore, rain soaked evening, neon colours, manic laugh, broken mirror, multiple manic laughs, jumping off a bridge.
Incredible.
@Malith – I’m most excited to visit: Dead of Night, Victim, All Night Long, Pool of London and The Blue Lamp
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2004/oct/11/2
MASH (1970)
Notes:
The basic set up revolves around a group of officers working at a medical facility for the US army in South Korea during the Korean War in 1951. Two new surgeons, Donald Sutherland as Captain Benjamin Franklin “Hawkeye Pierce Jr. and Tom Skerritt as Captain Augustus Bedford “Duke” Forrest
Opens with shot of helicopter airlifting soldiers
2.35 to 1 aspect ratio
6:57 overhead shot of Jeep driving through area
7:46 zoom in on face of attractive woman
10:26 characters meeting one another with multiple conversations taking place at once without Altman focusing in on any one in particular
13:00 slow pan across the room with surgeries taking place at Mobile Army Surgical Hospital Units
14:57 Robert Duvall as strict, religious man, Major Frank Burns
19:54 Hawkeye with 1st Lieutenant Maria “Dish” Schneider
21:10 zoom out from Elliot Gould as Captain John Francis “Trapper John” McIntyre
22:25 characters shot in insolation during this sequence as Hawkeye and Duke meet Trapper
24:27 character blocking during surgery scene is filmed in tight space putting the viewer in room
25:19 throwing football around lackadaisically as counterpoint to the previous surgery scene
27:00 rare static camera as shot of Army helicopter is held leading to Sally Kellerman’s character Margaret “Hot Lips” Houlihan exiting the helicopter
32:18 zoom out and tracking shot showing officers during down time
34:11 overhead shot in surgical hospital showing officers operating in a casual atmosphere, the lights go out at one point, there is singing and joking around
37:43 zoom in on the appalled looking face of Hot Lips due to casual sexist comments and the general crudeness of many of the officers
39:27 light bulb in foreground swinging around during an almost sex scene
42:52 microphone placed in tent where Frank and woman having sex, with montage of soldiers listening on for entertainment
44:34 the montage of listening to sex continues with shots of regular duties going on
49:45 the camera movements are swift yet forceful
51:10 frame in frame followed by zooming out
54 min hilarious and strange conversation about a Dentist who is nicknamed, “Painless”. He believes that he is gay after not being able to perform sexually, then casually announces he is going to commit suicide followed by discussion over methods to do it, the matter-of-fact tone gives otherwise serious discussion a humorist tone
59:01 cinematic wide angle shot of “The Last Supper” with Painless in the center of the table
1:00:16 wide angle shot of “The Last Supper” with song in the background
1:01:05 another great wide angle shot, this one Painless is in the foreground with the other soldiers in the background of the frame shown from the chest down
1:03:57 red/orange lighting with Painless lying on his potential death bed
1:05:27 Lt Dish lifting the white sheets over Painless followed by a sort of match cut to a shot of the tent from the outside with “Officer’s Club” with phallic shapes
1:06:30 zoom on Lt Dish before helicopter flies off
1:12:29 bet solved via cruel prank as Lt Leslie is shown showering, this results in her becoming infuriated at the actions and indifference when she complains to superiors
1:19:48 surveillance angle shot as Hawkeye and Trapper arrive in Japan
1:21:15 reverse tracking POV shot as Hawkeye and Trapper force their way into hospital and bark out orders including more sexist behavior
1:22:35 zoom in on operating table
1:25:45 triangle composition with Hawkeye and Trapper casually putting in the office of the hospital director as they continue their disrespectful behavior
1:28:28 photograph montage of hospital commander in a compromising position to blackmail him
1:29:47 overlapping dialogue in operating room
1:35:19 one of the best zooms with zoom out to transition to football practice
1:38:00 football scenes begin with the camera altering between the field and the audience
1:41:56 quick cuts with shaky camera movements on football field
1:46:32 nice overhead shot of players setting up at the line of scrimmage
1:47:27 frame filled to brim with characters, nice use of blocking
1:50:41 bottle pop noise and other sound effects after the game in addition to the band’s music
1:51:28 poker game in dimly lit army tent
The film ends with Hawkeye and Duke leaving in the same Jeep they steal in the beginning
Thoughts:
Great film, I believe this was only my 2nd viewing. My dad was a big fan of the TV Series, I watched the first time with him years ago and really enjoyed it
This was not Altman’s first film, in fact he had already made several features and had considerable experience working on TV. None the less this is considered to be his real breakthrough with his particular cinematic style; zooms, overlapping dialogue, ensemble cast even if there are 3 main characters, and satirical humor
The zooms become more prevalent in some of later works but the zoom is quite noticeable here. The zooms work so well with ensemble casts as they can quickly and forcefully alter the focus or perspective from one character to another
The 2.35 to 1 aspect ratio is especially effective with the cinematic “Last Supper “scene which uses a brilliant wide angle shot
The film uses slightly desaturated palette consisting largely of green and browns matching the uniforms worn. The orange/red lighting stands out during the resurrection scene when Painless is “saved” by having sex with an attractive woman
Altman wanted the film to be set around Vietnam but the Studios hardlined against it. The film none the less contains commentary that is aimed at the American involvement in the Vietnam War. Altman uses humor to accentuate the subversive elements of the film. Many of the officers, especially the male ones, behave like teens at a summer camp. Using religion for laughs, in particular the entire “Last Supper” scene with Private Seidman singing “Suicide is Painless”, accompanied by Bandini on guitar. There is also the use of Robert DuVall’s hypocritical character, the uptight and religious Major. Duvall’s casting in Apocalypse Now (1979) interesting as the character he plays in that film would have been right at home with Hawkeye and the other immature pranksters
The surgery scenes are quite graphic but serve as an effective contrast with the juvenile behavior of the main characters that is present throughout the film. You have pranks, vile language, sexist jokes, and general disrespectful behavior
The overlapping dialogue is an Altman trait that is used throughout his work, and it is present here. It works especially well with tracking shots or sweeping pans where the camera is not focused on any particular character. This is particularly effective in placing the viewer in the room with the characters
The late great Donald Sutherland is always a treat to watch as well as Elliot Gould. They have such great chemistry together and you get the sense that these two actors could make anything entertaining. The film is filled with offensive jokes, Pranks, etc. but the humor is intelligent
The pacing is perfect as the film moves along without a distinct plot although the film moves along without ever feeling stagnant. It is funny that the final scene revolves around a big football game as there is no way anyone watching could possibly guess that halfway through. I do not know if Tarantino liked the film or not, but it does seem to fit into what he calls “hangout movies”. Altman subtly moves the film along even when it seems like the characters are just lounging around like when Painless makes a confession to Hawkeye leading to the hilarious “Last Supper” scene
Verdict: MP
@James Trapp-Did you not see Countdown (1967)? It is about the moon landing.
https://thecinemaarchives.com/2020/03/31/countdown-1967-altman/
@Malith – It is not set in stone but I plan on covering:
M.A.S.H. 1970
McCabe and Mrs. Miller 1971
Images 1972
The Long Goodbye 1973
California Split 1974
Thieves Like Us 1974
Nashville 1975
Buffalo Bill and the Indians 1976
Three Women 1977
Secret Honor 1984
Vincent and Theo 1990
The Player 1992
Short Cuts 1993
Gosford Park 2001
@James Trapp-Countdown is a nice little film and I love this space travel films. The list is very fine although I have no idea what Secret Honor is.
@Malith – It is about Richard Nixon, with Philip Baker Hall playing Nixon. I noticed it on the Criterion Channel. I do not know much about it beyond that, but that is enough for me. I love PBH in supporting roles although I am not sure I have seen any film where he plays the lead. Although, you could argue that he is the co-lead in Hard Eight (1998) with John C Reilly
Even though The Spider’s Stratagem can’t match up to The Conformist and has some poor choices(a lengthy talking scene cut with fade outs, ridiculous fake punch etc.) I thought it was a very powerful film if one can stuck with it and be patient. It’s a very good companion piece to The Conformist. If the Conformist is about a weak fascist, the Spider’s Stratagem is about a weak communist. This kind of protagonist is also in Bertolucci’s others films like Novecento and The Last Emperor. But The Spider’s Stratagem is important because it is not about a fascist like the others but a communist who has become a myth as a hero even though in reality he was a weak communist. It raises very important questions about the other side of the equation and are these heroes people adore who they really are in real-life? It is also connected to Bertolucci’s other films thematically as it is about an outsider who goes on a visit to this local town where his father lived. And the striking blue day for night Bertolucci-Storaro uses regularly starts here.
@Lionel – There are no less than ten very stunning images from The Spider’s Strategem and the twist is very interesting. Certainly a Bertolucci film to the core.
Yeah. It’s a great twist. I wasn’t overly sure where this was going but the ending is powerful. Great music numerous times as well. I think most of the best images of The Spider’s Stratagem come in the night scenes or in silhouette especially near the end.
Have you seen Investigation of a Citizen Above Suspicion(1970)? Oscar winner for best Foreign Language Film.
@Anderson- I have not as of yet
A perfect 100 on RT. Oscar winner for best Foreign Language Film. How did you miss it for this long?
@Anderson – haha- what a comment. Not sure.
Hey @Drake,
According to you who gives the second best performance in The Conformist after Trintignant, Sanda Or Sandrelli?
@MASH – I’m not Drake but I did rewatch The Conformist two nights ago and I’d say its close but I’m going with Sanda
@MASH @Harry- agreeing with Harry here
I watched The Conformist and L’Innocente quite recently sort of back to back. And I have to say Laura Antonelli’s performance in L’Innocente is comfortably superior than those of Dominique Sanda and Stefania Sandrelli in The Conformist.
The fact that The Conformist was Billy Wilder’s favorite film should give one an idea of its quality.
@Philip Tone- Interesting- I did not know this- fascinating for a great director to say that about a film to come out while he’s still working or even after he’s past his prime a little- almost every director picks something older – maybe a film that helped shape them or get interested in cinema.
Drake, Have you seen the Italian film Investigation of a Citizen Above Suspicion?
It’s an unusual film that is a combination of a satire, political commentary, and character study with a sort of Kafkaesque atmosphere like Well’s film The Trial. Except here its more like an inverse version of it. A Police Chief commits a murder then deliberately plants clues that will lead back to him.
@James Trapp- I have not- sounds intriguing. Thanks for surfacing. I’ll try to seek it out.
Please do, I saw it the day before yesterday and it was truly masterful, at least MS for me
@Drake-Have you seen Islands in the Stream(1977)?
The reunion of actor and director of Patton.
@Anderson- Interesting- I have not. I’d like to check this out
Shouldn’t Five Easy Pieces be a MS/MP because you have Five Easy Pieces over Carnal Knowledge in your top 500 and Carnal Knowledge is a MS/MP.
@Malith- Nope, not in this case
Performance is so bizarre, I’m about to watch for the 2nd straight time, so confused the 1st time but fascinating enough that for another watch
Completed a 2nd watch and this was quite an experience. The Memo from Turner scene was incredible. I get the feeling that even after 50 viewings there would probably be a lot I still don’t comprehend. Awesome seeing Mick Jagger, I’m a big Stones fan.
Here’s an interesting article on Nicolas Roeg movies:
https://www.theringer.com/movies/2018/11/26/18111989/nicolas-roeg-director-dead-obituary-dont-look-now-man-who-fell-to-earth-walkabout
I still don’t quite know what even happened to Roeg. I mean Don’t Look Now has to be one of the best products of the 70s horror boom. And if you read about him, nobody really seems to address the question of what caused the decline in his career after the 70s.
@James Trapp— thanks for sharing this article. I love that you saw it, and went back for one more!
No I mean in 1970 not the whole 1970’s.
@Anderson- maybe, Five Easy Pieces might take this one though
Does Antonioni’s Zabriskie Point has the best ending of any film of 1970?
@Anderson. No I don’t think so. I’d take either Godfather, Apocalypse Now, Chinatown
While it’s definitely not the best film of his career I think there’s a case to be made for Five Easy Pieces being Nicolson’s best performance. Few character’s have such a wide emotional range as he’s essentially playing a character who is almost 2 completely separate people as he is playing a character who is not comfortable in his own skin but it’s far more nuanced and complex than a standard “outsider” character. While Chinatown and One Flew… are superior films I think this performance is on par with anything he’s done. And while it has scenes of Jack demonstrating his bravado it is the quieter scenes that really hit you, the scene where he is alone with his father is one of the toughest scenes to watch in any film and I mean that as a compliment, the display of vulnerability is incredible, not an easy watch but what a performance.
Doesn’t Karl Malden deserve a mention for Patton? It is not upto the level of George.C Scott’s accomplishment in the same film but still he is very good.
@Anderson- I’m a big admirer of Malden’s work- not just in 1970 but throughout his career- but I think it is a stretch to include him with the best actors in 1970. It is a pretty quiet performance supporting performance in the seventh best film of the year.
I’ve seen El Topo once and thought it was a HR after that. I could go lower upon a rewatch if I don’t see enough true visual mastery (a lot of the reasons I thought it was so good were because of how different Jodorowsky was from just about anyone else) but I’m fairly confident it’s a HR. You did move The Holy Mountain up to MS from an R at least.
Do you think Bob Rafelson has any other good films? or do you think he is those directors of just one great movie?
@Lucas Henriques – So 1972’s The King of Marvin Gardens is pretty good– it is in the archives from Rafelson. But there is a major drop off from Five Easy Pieces. One great movie.
Is Franklin.J.Schaffner close to making your best directors list?
@Chris– he’ll be coming up– not right away but the collection of films from Schaffner is too good to deny
@Kidman69 — I’m sorry to hear we’re not on the same page in regards to MASH. Altman is a very important and brilliant filmmaker and MASH certainly a landmark film (for him and the American movement of the time– The New Hollywood) and where it all starts for him. Counting laughs for one person vs. another and what may offend one person and not another is one thing— (I’d hate to go back and litigate films from Bunuel, Lars von Trier, The Marx Brothers and others if we’re talking toxic masculinity, misogyny, what films have fully developed female characters, etc)— but Altman’s style here can’t be denied. I wrote the below about MASH when I did the Altman page last year:
Right off the bat in the 70’s Altman is firing with overlapping dialogue, zooming all over the place, and a big middle-finger at the establishment. I’m guessing the slapstick football ending is what isn’t aging well for some viewers… I mean it’s very good slapstick- if people don’t like slapstick that is a taste preference. It’s certainly in step with the film’s form, that genre’s great history (winking at everyone from Harold Lloyd’s The Freshman to the Marx brothers’ Horse Feathers with the football slapstick) and the greater point and criticism Altman is trying to get across (the absurdity of all of this).
Whoo boy… MASH is a film I did not like whatsoever. When MASH began, I thought that its trio of main characters were high school bullies. By the end of the first act I believed them to be sociopaths. At the midpoint I realized they were plain psychopaths and threw up my hands in frustration. I understand, in theory, why this film is supposed to be funny…but it’s not. It’s a black comedy that forgot to add in the comedy. I don’t root for any of the protagonists. I don’t care about how they interact with one another or what is driving them. The film is also deeply misogynistic. The only major female character is Hot Lips who gets the name Hot Lips after someone sneaks a microphone into her tent while she’s having sex, which is bad enough. But then the film becomes inhuman when the guys decide to yank the tent up while she is showering. They all cackle and heckle while she screams, naked and horrified, in front of them. That was supposed to be…funny? And then, inexplicably, after she has sex with Duke for no apparent reason, she turns into a completely mindless cheerleader during the climactic football game. It’s not even the same character, and there is no transitory scene where she begins to root for them. The fact that the movie simply has her shack up with one of the surgeons and then appear brainless for the rest of the movie sickens me. MASH seems to reward the assholes and misogynists while punishing the actually good characters. And I haven’t even mentioned the presence of toxic masculinity where Walter pretends to commit suicide just so he could have sex with Maria. The whole thing feels like a poorly made Adam Sandler movie.